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	<title>Comments on: Roost Levels The Playing Field Between Listing And Buy-side Brokers, But (Speaking From Personal Experience!) How Long Before An MLS Strangles It?</title>
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		<title>By: satrap</title>
		<link>http://3oceansrealestate.com/blog/roost-is-a-new-real-estate-search-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-150901</link>
		<dc:creator>satrap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>search engine and things related to it are always evolving, so its kind of hard to stick with the same plan as you always have to adapt to new rules. specially with google. any way thanks for the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>search engine and things related to it are always evolving, so its kind of hard to stick with the same plan as you always have to adapt to new rules. specially with google. any way thanks for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Britt</title>
		<link>http://3oceansrealestate.com/blog/roost-is-a-new-real-estate-search-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-142973</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Britt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrew - You&#039;ve got a point, but the #1 thing home buyer&#039;s want to see when they visit a real estate site is property, so their will always be a need search sites. Handing over the real estate analytics to consumers is great, but is that something they&#039;re really looking for? Buying property and buying stocks are similar in that they are investments. But most times, people are buying homes because they need something to live in, or because they like to vacation in a certain area. Building a real estate portfolio is secondary to them. However, I will agree, that there are real estate investors our there, and we definitely want to appeal to them, so data is great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrew &#8211; You&#8217;ve got a point, but the #1 thing home buyer&#8217;s want to see when they visit a real estate site is property, so their will always be a need search sites. Handing over the real estate analytics to consumers is great, but is that something they&#8217;re really looking for? Buying property and buying stocks are similar in that they are investments. But most times, people are buying homes because they need something to live in, or because they like to vacation in a certain area. Building a real estate portfolio is secondary to them. However, I will agree, that there are real estate investors our there, and we definitely want to appeal to them, so data is great.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it doesn&#039;t hurt that the same Mike Lyon sits on the local MLS Board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it doesn&#8217;t hurt that the same Mike Lyon sits on the local MLS Board.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Real Estate search engine business model is tragically out-dated and depends too much on the hundreds of disparate MLS systems.  It would be like online brokerage firms allowing you to search for stocks and nothing else.  Instead, Wall Street handed over the analytics to the consumers. Which is exactly where real estate should be heading. But we keep getting different flavors of real estate search engines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Real Estate search engine business model is tragically out-dated and depends too much on the hundreds of disparate MLS systems.  It would be like online brokerage firms allowing you to search for stocks and nothing else.  Instead, Wall Street handed over the analytics to the consumers. Which is exactly where real estate should be heading. But we keep getting different flavors of real estate search engines.</p>
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		<title>By: Dothomes.com is a new real estate search site &#124; 3 Oceans Real Estate, A Boutique Real Estate Brokerage Serving the San Francisco Bay Area</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dothomes.com is a new real estate search site &#124; 3 Oceans Real Estate, A Boutique Real Estate Brokerage Serving the San Francisco Bay Area</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 05:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alex Chang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kevin.  

Let&#039;s hope the world has changed for the better since then :)  We&#039;ve been very careful to get MLS input &amp; buy in early and upfront in any market, and have spent a lot of time working with brokers on this. 

I&#039;m both confident and optimistic that the industry will see Roost as beneficial given its openness to all brokers, and transparent model.

MLS&#039;s that we&#039;ve spoken to  recognize that their members will benefit from Roost.

I love that you appreciate what we&#039;re up to. Don&#039;t be shy in voicing your support!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kevin.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope the world has changed for the better since then <img src='http://3oceansrealestate.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   We&#8217;ve been very careful to get MLS input &amp; buy in early and upfront in any market, and have spent a lot of time working with brokers on this. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m both confident and optimistic that the industry will see Roost as beneficial given its openness to all brokers, and transparent model.</p>
<p>MLS&#8217;s that we&#8217;ve spoken to  recognize that their members will benefit from Roost.</p>
<p>I love that you appreciate what we&#8217;re up to. Don&#8217;t be shy in voicing your support!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Boer, Broker Owner, 3 Oceans Real Estate, Inc. (650.387.2860)</title>
		<link>http://3oceansrealestate.com/blog/roost-is-a-new-real-estate-search-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-139734</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Boer, Broker Owner, 3 Oceans Real Estate, Inc. (650.387.2860)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, thanks for dropping by.  I apologize if my  &quot;sleight of hand&quot; comment came across as implying that I think you&#039;re doing something duplicitous.  Quite the contrary -- I like what you&#039;re doing and I wish you the very best of success.

I think, however, that many brokerages are going to see it as &quot;sleight of hand&quot; and will complain to their local MLS.  If you&#039;re found to be in compliance -- which you most likely will be -- then they&#039;ll simply change the rules and make you non-compliant.

I&#039;m speaking from personal experience.  I tried to do something very similar to what you&#039;re doing here using Google Base about 2 years ago, and even though I was technically within the MLS rules, I got shut down pretty quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, thanks for dropping by.  I apologize if my  &#8220;sleight of hand&#8221; comment came across as implying that I think you&#8217;re doing something duplicitous.  Quite the contrary &#8212; I like what you&#8217;re doing and I wish you the very best of success.</p>
<p>I think, however, that many brokerages are going to see it as &#8220;sleight of hand&#8221; and will complain to their local MLS.  If you&#8217;re found to be in compliance &#8212; which you most likely will be &#8212; then they&#8217;ll simply change the rules and make you non-compliant.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m speaking from personal experience.  I tried to do something very similar to what you&#8217;re doing here using Google Base about 2 years ago, and even though I was technically within the MLS rules, I got shut down pretty quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Chang</title>
		<link>http://3oceansrealestate.com/blog/roost-is-a-new-real-estate-search-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-139729</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex from Roost here.  Thanks for the thoughtful write up Kevin.  Wanted to add a couple of thoughts:

a)   You have it exactly right that Roost is open to all types of brokers large and small.  That’s one of the beauties of our model, and you can tell that by seeing the mix of brokers we have involved.  As you know, the spirit of Broker Reciprocity/IDX is to create a level playing field for all brokers allowing them to display all properties available on the market under their sponsorship.... so long as they permit other brokers display their listings under other sponsorships.  Roost simply provides brokers with another IDX enabled site and sends qualified traffic to that site should the broker desire that

b)   At its core, Roost&#039;s platform is a network of  individually-controlled broker IDX sites that are accessed by a search engine.  Each site is in the broker’s control.  In some markets these sites sit on a sub-domain which is unique to them, and in others they are owned by the broker directly.   We have been and are committed to doing whatever the MLS requires.  No sleight of hand, it is all above board.  The  Roost solution is much like the national IDX solutions that exist on some of the large national brands’ sites, except that the Roost platform is open to any &amp; all brokers in the market

c)   To be clear we are 100% transparent in making sure this is compliant with each local MLS’s rules.  And we don&#039;t launch a market until we&#039;ve worked that through with the MLS. We have the  concept approved explicitly at first and then secure IDX approval for each individual broker’s IDX site on Roost’s platform subject to the standard approval process of each local MLS

Thanks for checking us out!  Love any and all feedback on how we can make this a great platform for Realtors (and consumers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex from Roost here.  Thanks for the thoughtful write up Kevin.  Wanted to add a couple of thoughts:</p>
<p>a)   You have it exactly right that Roost is open to all types of brokers large and small.  That’s one of the beauties of our model, and you can tell that by seeing the mix of brokers we have involved.  As you know, the spirit of Broker Reciprocity/IDX is to create a level playing field for all brokers allowing them to display all properties available on the market under their sponsorship&#8230;. so long as they permit other brokers display their listings under other sponsorships.  Roost simply provides brokers with another IDX enabled site and sends qualified traffic to that site should the broker desire that</p>
<p>b)   At its core, Roost&#8217;s platform is a network of  individually-controlled broker IDX sites that are accessed by a search engine.  Each site is in the broker’s control.  In some markets these sites sit on a sub-domain which is unique to them, and in others they are owned by the broker directly.   We have been and are committed to doing whatever the MLS requires.  No sleight of hand, it is all above board.  The  Roost solution is much like the national IDX solutions that exist on some of the large national brands’ sites, except that the Roost platform is open to any &amp; all brokers in the market</p>
<p>c)   To be clear we are 100% transparent in making sure this is compliant with each local MLS’s rules.  And we don&#8217;t launch a market until we&#8217;ve worked that through with the MLS. We have the  concept approved explicitly at first and then secure IDX approval for each individual broker’s IDX site on Roost’s platform subject to the standard approval process of each local MLS</p>
<p>Thanks for checking us out!  Love any and all feedback on how we can make this a great platform for Realtors (and consumers).</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Boer, Broker Owner, 3 Oceans Real Estate, Inc. (650.387.2860)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Boer, Broker Owner, 3 Oceans Real Estate, Inc. (650.387.2860)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevor -- don&#039;t hold your breath!  :)  This industry has weathered any number of downturns, and we&#039;ve managed to remain quite antiquated.

I also love what Roost is doing and wish them the very best of success, but let&#039;s just say it&#039;s unlikely their legal and lobbying team is up to par with CAR&#039;s and NAR&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor &#8212; don&#8217;t hold your breath!  <img src='http://3oceansrealestate.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   This industry has weathered any number of downturns, and we&#8217;ve managed to remain quite antiquated.</p>
<p>I also love what Roost is doing and wish them the very best of success, but let&#8217;s just say it&#8217;s unlikely their legal and lobbying team is up to par with CAR&#8217;s and NAR&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Boer, Broker Owner, 3 Oceans Real Estate, Inc. (650.387.2860)</title>
		<link>http://3oceansrealestate.com/blog/roost-is-a-new-real-estate-search-site.html/comment-page-1#comment-139714</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Boer, Broker Owner, 3 Oceans Real Estate, Inc. (650.387.2860)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric -- technically I believe they&#039;re in compliance with the MLS regulations because the site that I conducted the search on was -- at that moment -- golyon.roost.com -- ie a site under Lyon&#039;s control.  From that point of view, no different really from searching directly on the GoLyon.com site.

Lenore -- thanks for dropping by.  I&#039;ve been giving that idea of &quot;paying for leads on your own listings&quot; some thought, and I&#039;m beginning to think a little differently on it.  We &quot;pay for leads on our own listings&quot; whenever we advertise in a paper, don&#039;t we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric &#8212; technically I believe they&#8217;re in compliance with the MLS regulations because the site that I conducted the search on was &#8212; at that moment &#8212; golyon.roost.com &#8212; ie a site under Lyon&#8217;s control.  From that point of view, no different really from searching directly on the GoLyon.com site.</p>
<p>Lenore &#8212; thanks for dropping by.  I&#8217;ve been giving that idea of &#8220;paying for leads on your own listings&#8221; some thought, and I&#8217;m beginning to think a little differently on it.  We &#8220;pay for leads on our own listings&#8221; whenever we advertise in a paper, don&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps the housing downturn will finally hit realtors enough to reverberate through the antiquated MLS organizations.  as a consumer, i love what Roost is doing, and i hope that the downturn is deep enough such that the fiefdoms in the overgrown cottage industry of real estate will fall apart.  it&#039;s such a bloated industry with too many people in the cookie jar all held together by sales tactics and legal claims to exclusive information.  Hail the Downturn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps the housing downturn will finally hit realtors enough to reverberate through the antiquated MLS organizations.  as a consumer, i love what Roost is doing, and i hope that the downturn is deep enough such that the fiefdoms in the overgrown cottage industry of real estate will fall apart.  it&#8217;s such a bloated industry with too many people in the cookie jar all held together by sales tactics and legal claims to exclusive information.  Hail the Downturn!</p>
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		<title>By: TheCoach</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheCoach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Kevin. Another enjoyable read. And you are right, I was a bit &quot;miffed&quot; by the model that sends an inquiry on my Listings to Lyon RE. I will let the professionals handle it from here though. Thanks for the post! The Coach (Eric Bryant, Dir. of IS, Prudential California Realty - Central Valley)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Kevin. Another enjoyable read. And you are right, I was a bit &#8220;miffed&#8221; by the model that sends an inquiry on my Listings to Lyon RE. I will let the professionals handle it from here though. Thanks for the post! The Coach (Eric Bryant, Dir. of IS, Prudential California Realty &#8211; Central Valley)</p>
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		<title>By: Lenore Wilkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenore Wilkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder who will end up laying the egg here, Roost or someone else, like the dumb agent who pays for leads on their own listings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder who will end up laying the egg here, Roost or someone else, like the dumb agent who pays for leads on their own listings?</p>
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