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		<title>By: Technology news - Techvibes Blog</title>
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		<description>[...] news for Redfin. Very bad news for the traditional real esate [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hiring A High Tech Agent? A Discount Broker? Be Careful What You Wish For ~ You Just Might Get It. (And &#8220;lose the house&#8221; to another buyer)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hiring A High Tech Agent? A Discount Broker? Be Careful What You Wish For ~ You Just Might Get It. (And &#8220;lose the house&#8221; to another buyer)</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] discount agents and brokers mentioned in Greg Swan&#8217;s, Kevin Boer&#8217;s and/or Kris Berg&#8217;s articles, are even less likely to present offers in-person ~ that would [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] discount agents and brokers mentioned in Greg Swan&#8217;s, Kevin Boer&#8217;s and/or Kris Berg&#8217;s articles, are even less likely to present offers in-person ~ that would [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Redfin Select: School-Marmish Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma? Becoming What They Hate? : Domus Test Test Test</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redfin Select: School-Marmish Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma? Becoming What They Hate? : Domus Test Test Test</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] is my &#8220;Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma&#8221; proposition:   Redfin as a classic disruptive company, will first figure out how to be profitable serving the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 54th C.O.R.E. Posted - At Least Someone Read Us! Thanks! &#124; agentgenius.com- national real estate opinion column</title>
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		<dc:creator>54th C.O.R.E. Posted - At Least Someone Read Us! Thanks! &#124; agentgenius.com- national real estate opinion column</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Boer on The Innovator’s Dilemma In Real Estate: Beware Of That Redfin Swimming Just Below You, where he applies lessons from Harvard’s Clayton Christensen on how low-cost competitors move up [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Redfin Select: School-Marmish Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma? Becoming What They Hate? &#124; 3 Oceans Real Estate, A Boutique Real Estate Brokerage Serving the San Francisco Bay Area</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redfin Select: School-Marmish Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma? Becoming What They Hate? &#124; 3 Oceans Real Estate, A Boutique Real Estate Brokerage Serving the San Francisco Bay Area</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is my &#8220;Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma&#8221; proposition:   Redfin as a classic disruptive company, will first figure out how to be profitable serving the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Don't throw stones yet &#124; Boston Condo and Luxury Boston Real Estate Blog</title>
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		<description>[...] awesome blog post&#8230;via our pal Kevin Boer - 3 Oceans Real Estate Blog.  Lots of good quotes in this one&#8230;we will certainly leverage [...]</description>
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		<title>By: svrpaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>svrpaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, 

Interesting analysis on Redfin that is much more thoughtful then what you normally read. What&#039;s interesting to see is if the $8,000,000 venture capital investment will ever pay off on a model that I don&#039;t think would be particularly too hard to duplicate except for companies bloated in bureacracy.

In other words, success attracts attention and if you have something that can easily be duplicated, expect others to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, </p>
<p>Interesting analysis on Redfin that is much more thoughtful then what you normally read. What&#8217;s interesting to see is if the $8,000,000 venture capital investment will ever pay off on a model that I don&#8217;t think would be particularly too hard to duplicate except for companies bloated in bureacracy.</p>
<p>In other words, success attracts attention and if you have something that can easily be duplicated, expect others to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: derherold</title>
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		<dc:creator>derherold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting.
In germany we habe a FSBO-market share of almost 50%.
A *discount broker solution* could be the entry in this segment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting.<br />
In germany we habe a FSBO-market share of almost 50%.<br />
A *discount broker solution* could be the entry in this segment.</p>
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		<title>By: Hiring A High Tech Agent? A Discount Broker? Be Careful What You Wish For ~ You Just Might Get It. (And "lose the house" to another buyer)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hiring A High Tech Agent? A Discount Broker? Be Careful What You Wish For ~ You Just Might Get It. (And "lose the house" to another buyer)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] discount agents and brokers mentioned in Greg Swan&#8217;s, Kevin Boer&#8217;s and/or Kris Berg&#8217;s articles, are even less likely to present offers in-person ~ that would [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Ron here :)

What I was trying to convey is that it&#039;s more likely that Redfin (or its similar competitors) will successfully add services over time, to serve both the low end (low cost, low service) and up into the middle (moderate cost, moderate services), than Coldwell Banker will successfully remove services to create a low end brokerage.

On the tech side, this is what happens. The low end guys add features to their &quot;good enough and cheap&quot; products and capture a lot of the middle. The high end guys try to cripple their full feature product to plug a hole on the low end, and it usually doesn&#039;t work.

I am not an agent, only a buyer of multiple houses, but from what I have read on the ten or so agent blogs I read, it seems likely to me that agents will block efforts to create a real competitor at the low end, in order to protect their commissions. Just like Oracle resisted offering a low end database product for years, IBM resisted offering a low end app server for years, etc. Protect those fat margins. The open source and the $99 products took the low end and then got better, and the Oracle/IBM stuff became high-end full feature niche products. When they tried to cut features and sell more cheaply, the products looked like crippled versions of the complex high end products, not elegant and simple offerings. My guess is that if the full service brokers ever offer a low end product, they will just add a bunch of annoying restrictions so that customers won&#039;t want to use it. Then they say &quot;See, no one wants it.&quot;

Is this true? I don&#039;t know. But I do know that this is how it works in other markets. For those that think a &quot;Lexus&quot; buyer will never want a Hyundai, recall that Japanese cars used to be seen as junk. Now Lexus is a premier brand. The low end gets better.

Finally, I assume that the VCs who are funding Redfin and its successors view the RE market the way I described above. I.e. multi billion dollar market that is ripe for someone to change the business model by coming in from below and using technology to offer services and take share. Hey, eToys blew up, but Sequoia made a billion dollars on that investment before it did. And, people now sure do buy a lot of toys via online self service, don&#039;t they? Heck, cars are one of eBay&#039;s biggest categories; who thought people would buy expensive cars over the web?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Ron here <img src='http://3oceansrealestate.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What I was trying to convey is that it&#8217;s more likely that Redfin (or its similar competitors) will successfully add services over time, to serve both the low end (low cost, low service) and up into the middle (moderate cost, moderate services), than Coldwell Banker will successfully remove services to create a low end brokerage.</p>
<p>On the tech side, this is what happens. The low end guys add features to their &#8220;good enough and cheap&#8221; products and capture a lot of the middle. The high end guys try to cripple their full feature product to plug a hole on the low end, and it usually doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>I am not an agent, only a buyer of multiple houses, but from what I have read on the ten or so agent blogs I read, it seems likely to me that agents will block efforts to create a real competitor at the low end, in order to protect their commissions. Just like Oracle resisted offering a low end database product for years, IBM resisted offering a low end app server for years, etc. Protect those fat margins. The open source and the $99 products took the low end and then got better, and the Oracle/IBM stuff became high-end full feature niche products. When they tried to cut features and sell more cheaply, the products looked like crippled versions of the complex high end products, not elegant and simple offerings. My guess is that if the full service brokers ever offer a low end product, they will just add a bunch of annoying restrictions so that customers won&#8217;t want to use it. Then they say &#8220;See, no one wants it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is this true? I don&#8217;t know. But I do know that this is how it works in other markets. For those that think a &#8220;Lexus&#8221; buyer will never want a Hyundai, recall that Japanese cars used to be seen as junk. Now Lexus is a premier brand. The low end gets better.</p>
<p>Finally, I assume that the VCs who are funding Redfin and its successors view the RE market the way I described above. I.e. multi billion dollar market that is ripe for someone to change the business model by coming in from below and using technology to offer services and take share. Hey, eToys blew up, but Sequoia made a billion dollars on that investment before it did. And, people now sure do buy a lot of toys via online self service, don&#8217;t they? Heck, cars are one of eBay&#8217;s biggest categories; who thought people would buy expensive cars over the web?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Boer, Realtor, Alain Pinel Realtors</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Boer, Realtor, Alain Pinel Realtors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ardell,

Ron will have to answer for himself, but the way I see it is that if Redfin can find a profitable way to serve its clients at a fraction of its competitors&#039; cost, and then leverages that experience to move upmarket where it can provide, say, 2X the service it&#039;s used to but charge 3X, then -- hey, the VC&#039;s will be mighty happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ardell,</p>
<p>Ron will have to answer for himself, but the way I see it is that if Redfin can find a profitable way to serve its clients at a fraction of its competitors&#8217; cost, and then leverages that experience to move upmarket where it can provide, say, 2X the service it&#8217;s used to but charge 3X, then &#8212; hey, the VC&#8217;s will be mighty happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Real Estate Carnivals Galore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real Estate Carnivals Galore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Of the no-doubt numerous entries he received, he picked out 6 for special mention, including yours truly&#8217;s article on Redfin as an example of the Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma.  I&#8217;m [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved Ron&#039;s comment above.  But does it mean eventually they will be like Frank?  &quot;I used to discount, but then I got good&quot;?  Is Ron suggesting Redfin will &quot;climb up the food chain&quot; and eventually become like everyone else?  

I hope not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved Ron&#8217;s comment above.  But does it mean eventually they will be like Frank?  &#8220;I used to discount, but then I got good&#8221;?  Is Ron suggesting Redfin will &#8220;climb up the food chain&#8221; and eventually become like everyone else?  </p>
<p>I hope not.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! Finally, one that isn&#039;t just &quot;Redfin sucks!&quot; The funny thing about Redfin and disruption is that this kind of thing is so basic and common in high tech. We just assume it will happen, and there are a set of well understood strategies for dealing with it. Pick pretty much any software or hardware market segment, and there will be high end players and also low end players, and over time, the low end players ALWAYS get better and move up the chain. while the high end guys rarely move down the chain. It&#039;s much easier for the low end players to add features than for high end guys to make low end products that are actually different and not just crippled versions of the expensive products.  Describing this to anyone in technology would be like saying &quot;you consume oxygen to survive&quot; - it&#039;s just so fundamental. I am sure that Glenn Kelman, coming from Plumtree, understands this fully. 

It&#039;s funny that it&#039;s considered so foreign in real estate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! Finally, one that isn&#8217;t just &#8220;Redfin sucks!&#8221; The funny thing about Redfin and disruption is that this kind of thing is so basic and common in high tech. We just assume it will happen, and there are a set of well understood strategies for dealing with it. Pick pretty much any software or hardware market segment, and there will be high end players and also low end players, and over time, the low end players ALWAYS get better and move up the chain. while the high end guys rarely move down the chain. It&#8217;s much easier for the low end players to add features than for high end guys to make low end products that are actually different and not just crippled versions of the expensive products.  Describing this to anyone in technology would be like saying &#8220;you consume oxygen to survive&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s just so fundamental. I am sure that Glenn Kelman, coming from Plumtree, understands this fully. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that it&#8217;s considered so foreign in real estate.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on being the answer to a trivia question: the first winner of the Odysseus Medal.

Nice work, Kevin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on being the answer to a trivia question: the first winner of the Odysseus Medal.</p>
<p>Nice work, Kevin.</p>
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		<title>By: The Odysseus Medal Awards, week #1: An exposition of excellence in real estate weblogging &#124; BloodhoundBlog: Real estate marketing and technology blog &#124; Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investments</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Odysseus Medal Awards, week #1: An exposition of excellence in real estate weblogging &#124; BloodhoundBlog: Real estate marketing and technology blog &#124; Realtors and real estate, mortgages, lending, investments</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] in this new competition, the overall best post of the week in my opinion, goes to Kevin Boer with The Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma In Real Estate: Beware Of That Redfin Swimming Just Below You. I&#8217;m a Grand Opera kind of writer, and Kevin is a just-the-facts kind of guy, but the journey [...]</description>
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		<description>[...] Boer on The Innovator’s Dilemma In Real Estate: Beware Of That Redfin Swimming Just Below You, where he applies lessons from Harvard’s Clayton Christensen on how low-cost competitors move up [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Realty Thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Carnival of Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Roberta Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin: 

You were an intelligent voice at Real Estate Connect.

 Redfin&#039;s business model is an interesting one, but is encountering serious competition far earlier in its development that Charles Schwab. 

The biggest threat that comes to mind is Iggy&#039;s House, which offers  zero percent listing commission.  Its brokerage arm, Buy/Side Realty, rebates 75 percent of its commission to the buyer.
They claim their technology and customer meets or exceeds that of Redfin. And if I am not mistaken, they have penetrated more markets.

The speed of disruption these days occurs probably 10x faster than it did in the 1980&#039;s. Charles Schwab would have difficulty competing as a startup in today&#039;s market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin: </p>
<p>You were an intelligent voice at Real Estate Connect.</p>
<p> Redfin&#8217;s business model is an interesting one, but is encountering serious competition far earlier in its development that Charles Schwab. </p>
<p>The biggest threat that comes to mind is Iggy&#8217;s House, which offers  zero percent listing commission.  Its brokerage arm, Buy/Side Realty, rebates 75 percent of its commission to the buyer.<br />
They claim their technology and customer meets or exceeds that of Redfin. And if I am not mistaken, they have penetrated more markets.</p>
<p>The speed of disruption these days occurs probably 10x faster than it did in the 1980&#8217;s. Charles Schwab would have difficulty competing as a startup in today&#8217;s market.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank- FranklyBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank- FranklyBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kevin,
I also found you on InmanTV. Good stuff.

You might have mention Coldwell Banker as an inside joke, but in case you didn&#039;t, they DID launch a discount branch...  Years ago. 

Google Blue Edge Realty. Total commission is 2%!

My understanding is that this venture failed miserably.

There is nothing wrong with discounting. I like to say that  &lt;B&gt;&quot;I used to discount, but then I got good&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

Frank-  Broker FranklyRealty.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kevin,<br />
I also found you on InmanTV. Good stuff.</p>
<p>You might have mention Coldwell Banker as an inside joke, but in case you didn&#8217;t, they DID launch a discount branch&#8230;  Years ago. </p>
<p>Google Blue Edge Realty. Total commission is 2%!</p>
<p>My understanding is that this venture failed miserably.</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with discounting. I like to say that  <b>&#8220;I used to discount, but then I got good&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Frank-  Broker FranklyRealty.com</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great analysis. The 60 Minutes piece on them was a real eye opener to every agent in our office.  Everyone thinks this industry will stay the same but look at how much change we&#039;ve experienced over the past 10 years. Look at how much technology has been integrated into a traditional  real estate office over the past 10 years - email, websites, digital cameras, etc. There is obviously a lot more change to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great analysis. The 60 Minutes piece on them was a real eye opener to every agent in our office.  Everyone thinks this industry will stay the same but look at how much change we&#8217;ve experienced over the past 10 years. Look at how much technology has been integrated into a traditional  real estate office over the past 10 years &#8211; email, websites, digital cameras, etc. There is obviously a lot more change to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kevin--great post.  I agree with everything you said.  I actually had a talk with my broker last year about this very thing because I CANNOT understand why the traditional real estate industry refuses to understand that the earth is moving under our feet and we are going to have to move with it.  Change is inevitable and you can either choose to survive by innovation and adaptation, or you can choose to become obsolete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kevin&#8211;great post.  I agree with everything you said.  I actually had a talk with my broker last year about this very thing because I CANNOT understand why the traditional real estate industry refuses to understand that the earth is moving under our feet and we are going to have to move with it.  Change is inevitable and you can either choose to survive by innovation and adaptation, or you can choose to become obsolete.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Bragg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby Bragg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog.  I found out about it at Inman Conference.  Kevin, you have been great as a panelist and moderator and I think the Menlo Park real estate community has a true treasure.  This guy understands more parts of the RE transactions and industry than most CEOs.  I will be an avid reader from hereforward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog.  I found out about it at Inman Conference.  Kevin, you have been great as a panelist and moderator and I think the Menlo Park real estate community has a true treasure.  This guy understands more parts of the RE transactions and industry than most CEOs.  I will be an avid reader from hereforward.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Aurit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Aurit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great insight, but even better graphics!

Seriously, this reminds me of way back when Zip Realty was first launched by some much younger Berkeley grads.  At first their agents were on salary only as I recall.  But, as I recall, they realized they needed to act a bit more like real estate agents and found a happy medium of some sort.  Redfin may very well do the same thing.  Instead of &quot;Coldwell Banker Lite&quot; how about &quot;Subprime Coldwell Banker&quot;?  I understand that adjective is going to be available very soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great insight, but even better graphics!</p>
<p>Seriously, this reminds me of way back when Zip Realty was first launched by some much younger Berkeley grads.  At first their agents were on salary only as I recall.  But, as I recall, they realized they needed to act a bit more like real estate agents and found a happy medium of some sort.  Redfin may very well do the same thing.  Instead of &#8220;Coldwell Banker Lite&#8221; how about &#8220;Subprime Coldwell Banker&#8221;?  I understand that adjective is going to be available very soon.</p>
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